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Charles Hugh Smith's avatar

As usual, a very insightful range of comments, thank you.

Per Timmy's comments, humans are highly adaptable and when a high-cost centralized system unravels, they continue living but in a different cost-consumption structure. Mass die-offs happen via pandemics but not from collapses of states, people just slip away. So disorder/degrowth (or the abandonment of a high-cost system that's no longer supportable) can be managed, but not in a way that preserves all the high-cost systems.

In previous eras, historians focused some attention on the moral decay of the Roman Empire. Now the focus is on data--as befits our technocratic worldview. Moral decay doesn't lend itself to metrics, but that doesn't mean it isn't obvious. It seems obvious to me that our status quo has become far more corrupt over the past 50 years, to the point that it's normalized as "the cost of doing business." Systemic corruption waxes and wanes depending on the social mores that hold or are dissipating. To say that "corruption has always existed" doesn't mean it is always systemic, where virtually everything is corrupt.

It seems to me the moral foundation of our society/economy has given way, and we're in the Wile E. Coyote moment of denial where we grasp at straws: that AI or stablecoins will 'save the system' so it can continue on in its wasteful corrupt ways.

It seems to me that abundance removes scarcity as a driver of adaptation, and so the ability to adapt has been lost in the past 70 years of abundance. We've been lulled into thinking "somebody will save us"-- the Federal Reserve, some new money scheme, some new med, etc. The idea that we have to save ourselves from now on doesn't compute.

So we'll have to re-learn how to adapt the hard way, under the pressure of scarcity and disorder. This is not a popular view of course, but I think it is realistic given the lessons of history.

warm regards, charles

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BJ's avatar

When ever you see patterns such as this, ask yourself who benefits? To ask the question is to answer it. How do you strip mine a heavily armed population, over generations? How do you control the general populations opinions? How do you frame popular opinions, so that they appear open, but remain within limited boundaries? By designing and controlling a coerced "educational" system. Couple that with a central bank with a fractional reserve banking cartel, and you have almost unlimited power and the means to corrupt just about any system.

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